• Northanger Abbey Chapters 16-20: The Courting Game and an Invitation

    May 4, 2024
    In Want of a Good Book
    Northanger Abbey Chapters 16-20: The Courting Game and an Invitation

    (This conversation will contain spoilers for the current chapters.)

    S: I can understand Catherine’s disappointment after spending time with the Tilneys. It’s a shame when you’re looking forward to spending time with people and they seem to be preoccupied while they’re with you. I have to say, Isabella isn’t helping matters – actually, maybe she is, unwittingly, because Catherine begins to defend the Tilneys to her, which causes her (Catherine) to really think about the time they spent together and see that it wasn’t all disappointing. She really is good at giving people the benefit of the doubt, unlike Isabella. We soon learn about the elder Tilney brother, Frederick, so my guess is that the family was concerned for his arrival and thus preoccupied with their thoughts. 

    R: It was an interesting start to this next chapter. I agree that it might be the anticipation of the elder Tilney brother’s arrival preoccupying the family when Catherine visits. That is the only thing that makes sense so far, based on what we’re given and how Henry and his sister behave normally at the ball. I didn’t like how Isabella seemed to be pushing Catherine towards her (Isabella’s) brother over Mr. Tilney by being so negative about the Tilneys.

    S: Also, I have a feeling that Isabella is not entirely convinced that James Morland is her best marriage option and is, in fact, disappointed with the amount of money he will inherit at the end of three years.

    R: Either this, or Isabella is still convinced that the Morland family is extremely wealthy, but Mr. Morland is being stingy with James’ inheritance. 

    S: Ah, true!

    The scene at the ball is a bit cringy and I feel badly for Catherine because she really doesn’t understand the courting game (not that I think she necessarily should – there’s something to be said for just being honest). I was disappointed that Henry didn’t really explain things to her about his brother liking Isabella. I’m not sure if Henry doesn’t think he needs to explain or if he’s trying to and just doesn’t know how to say it in a way Catherine will understand. I see further evidence of not liking Isabella’s character very much because it seems to me that she is protesting way too much about not enjoying her dance with Frederick which makes me think she is enamoured with him.

    R: I found some of the dialogue and narrative a bit confusing at this point. I’m also not sure whether Isabella at this point is seeing Captain Tilney as a potential rival for James Morland or if she truly just danced with him because of his persistence. I did realise that Captain Tilney must really like Isabella since he wants to dance with her even though he dislikes the activity. He reminds me a little of Mr. Darcy there. It was cute that Catherine wasn’t catching Henry’s hints that his brother likes Isabella, but it does further show her naivete. 

    S: Oh, I hadn’t thought of comparing his opinion of dancing with Mr. Darcy’s!

    After such a cringe worthy chapter as Chapter 16 I was relieved to read that Catherine has been invited to stay with the Tilneys at their home in Northanger Abbey. I really hope this means further happiness for her.

    R: It’s funny that the book is called Northanger Abbey, but the characters won’t arrive there – and I don’t think it was mentioned – until more than halfway into the book. I am glad that Miss Tilney wants to continue her acquaintance with Catherine enough to invite her to their home.

    S: That’s true! We are kept in suspense (I wonder if that was on purpose considering the satire of the book) as to where and what Northanger Abbey is. 

    Again, I’m having a lot of trouble not being annoyed with Isabella because she assumes Catherine thinks the same way as she does about courting and thinks Catherine is playing some type of game with John. Although Isabella says she believes that Catherine didn’t intend to lead John on I’m not sure she actually does based on the way Austen describes her facial expressions. I think she’s also saying everything about fast choices because she is now deeply in like with Captain Tilney rather than James. 

    I continue to appreciate Catherine’s honesty when she clears up, or tries to clear up, the miscommunication between herself, John, and Isabella. For her sake I hope it really is cleared up, but I have a feeling it isn’t. 

    R: Isabella is changeable and inconstant. She is excited about John and Catherine’s supposed understanding, but as soon as Catherine corrects her, Isabella starts to say that she never thought they would be a good match. Then when Captain Tilney shows up, it’s obvious that Isabella seems to have feelings for him. I feel so sorry for Catherine. She recognizes what’s going on, though thinks Isabella is innocently flirting (I doubt this). I hope that Miss Tilney will prove to be a truer friend to Catherine than Isabella seems to be.

    S: Agreed! So far I think I like Miss Tilney and I hope that I’m not mistaken in liking her.

    I’m not sure how I feel about the way Chapter 19 progressed. I understand Henry’s point of view regarding Frederick’s pursuit of Isabella and it frustrates me that Catherine presses the subject. I know she feels badly for James but at the same time it’s really none of her affair. I think Henry was kind in how he helped Catherine work through her feelings about the whole thing, even if I think there is more to it than he thinks there is. I enjoyed his wording: ‘To be guided by secondhand conjecture is pitiful’. We cannot allow ourselves to be guided through life by assumption.

    R: I’m not certain how I feel about Henry’s perspective in this situation, but Catherine does her best as Isabella’s friend to caution her about her behaviour. I don’t know whether Isabella is deliberately or unintentionally obtuse, but we see at the end of the chapter that she does show some signs of waning interest in James. I feel bad for him. 

    S: As I have been reading this section, it has occurred to me that as much as I am annoyed with Isabella assuming others think as she does, Catherine does the same thing. I think the reason it annoys me more from Isabella is because her thinking is devious and revolves around assuming the worst in people, whereas Catherine’s assumptions are fairly naive and innocent.

    Chapter 20 is interesting, to say the least. I don’t quite know how to feel about General Tilney or his relationship with his children. He seems to be frustrated and disappointed with Captain Tilney and seems a sort of shadow over Henry and Miss Tilney. We now know for certain that Frederick likes Isabella, so we’ll see what that leads to.

    R: General Tilney’s behaviour confuses me as well. He’s so overly solicitous of Catherine to the point of making her uncomfortable, but seems to loom over his children in an authoritarian or dictatorial way. 

    S: I do wonder at what General Tilney is thinking by putting Catherine with Mr. Tilney in the curricle, but perhaps he is already under the assumption that they are together and since they are traveling as a family there is really nothing untoward about it as there would have been when the Thorpes and James were trying to get Catherine to go along with them.

    R: That was another circumstance that gave me pause. I hadn’t considered the thought that the General might think that Henry and Catherine have an understanding, but I also can’t think of any other reason. I would have thought he’d like her to stay with his daughter.

    I really enjoyed the conversation between Catherine and Henry! It showcased Mr. Tilney’s teasing nature as well as Catherine’s naivete. I was a bit surprised that Northanger Abbey was nothing like what Catherine had been expecting. It was amusing that even General Tilney seemed to pick up on her disappointment. 

    S: Catherine’s disappointment is palpable when they arrive at Northanger Abbey and, in a way, I do feel sad for her that it doesn’t meet expectations. Building something up in one’s mind only to find it less than what you thought, and yet also more than what you thought, is disappointing. I hadn’t caught the part about General Tilney picking up on Catherine’s disappointment, but that makes sense since he kept talking about all the improvements he’d made.

    The exchange between Catherine and Mr. Tilney was, at first, a bit off putting to me until I realised that he is teasing her. Perhaps it’s moments like these that make people not enjoy this book as much as Austen’s others? Regardless, it’s a funny exchange and I am reminded once more of how young and imaginative Catherine is and it makes me laugh. Honestly, she makes me wonder if Jane Austen took some of her own personality and infused it into Catherine. Chapter 20 certainly leaves us on a cliffhanger, for we are uncertain exactly how time will be spent at Northanger Abbey. There also seems to be a foreshadowing of a better understanding of how the Tilney family functions, which I am looking forward to, because right now they confuse me.

  • Northanger Abbey Chapters 11-15: An Engagement, A Misunderstanding, and Many Feelings (but Mostly Frustration)

    April 6, 2024
    In Want of a Good Book
    Northanger Abbey Chapters 11-15: An Engagement, A Misunderstanding, and Many Feelings (but Mostly Frustration)

    (This conversation will contain spoilers for the current chapters.)

    S: Oo, Chapter 11 makes my blood boil. I actively dislike Mr. Thorpe now. How dare he not listen to Catherine when she wanted to be let out of the gig! And then to be angry that they had set out too late and blame her brother – I try to not become angry at literary characters but his attitude takes all, especially his lie and the fact he didn’t own up to it (I suppose it’s possible he thought he saw Mr. Tilney but his attitude suggests otherwise). He also scoffed at James for not ‘…keeping a horse and gig of his own’ and scoffed when Catherine mentions James can’t afford them. Does he think the Morlands come from money? It seems, though we know so little of James, that he wouldn’t allow people to think that, but maybe he has, or perhaps it’s all assumption by the Thorpe siblings. That will make for an interesting turn of events if Isabella ends her fancy for James when she discovers the Morlands really don’t have money! 

    Speaking of Isabella – ugh. It’s as if neither Thorpe brother nor sister want to ever take responsibility for their own reckless behaviour. I don’t know how Catherine is going to get out of this mess – I feel for her. I also wonder if a lot of the mix ups and misunderstandings and social faux pas on her part is because she has never been taught how to act ‘in town’, if that makes sense.

    R: I don’t know why I didn’t expect disaster in this chapter, but I did not. Between the rain and Catherine being bullied into going for a drive with Isabella and their brothers, this was an upsetting chapter. I agree with you completely about Mr. Thorpe. He is aggravating. I feel bad for Catherine, but also think she should have used a little sense by leaving a message for the Tilneys in case they showed up. 

    S: Ah yes. I agree with you about leaving a message. That would have perhaps lessened hurt feelings. I am so happy that Catherine was able to clear up the misunderstanding with Mr. Tilney, although I am sorry that she was hurt and humiliated when she was not allowed admittance to see Miss Tilney in order to apologise. My next question is, does General Tilney really admire her as Mr. Thorpe is leading her to believe? I don’t think so. I think Mr. Thorpe is up to his old antics again and I’m sure Catherine’s joy will be dashed soon.

    R: I’m also pleased that Catherine was able to clear the air with Mr. Tilney, and I trust that he’ll convey her apologies to his sister and they’ll soon reconcile. I agree that Mr. Thorpe is not being honest in what he said about the General. Before, he seemed to be merely self-centred, but now I’m getting the feeling that he’s deliberately duplicitous. I think he realises that Catherine is interested in Mr. Tilney and is doing what he can to keep them apart.

    S: Is this section of the book meant to incite such strong feelings? It must, for I am thoroughly annoyed by not only Mr. and Miss Thorpe, but also by James and Mrs. Allen! How dare they try to manipulate Catherine or, in Mrs. Allen’s case, appear hypocritical! It probably makes me so angry because I have often been in Catherine’s shoes and absolutely hate it, feeling as though I have no voice and I’m in the wrong for a decision I know to be right. People do tend to become angry and manipulative when they know they are in the wrong, so perhaps that is what was going on with Catherine’s supposed friends. 

    R: Chapter 13 is infuriating! Mr. Thorpe and James and Isabella are outright gaslighting poor Catherine! And when Mr. Thorpe goes to the Tilneys and changes Catherine’s plans against her will and without her knowledge, I wanted to slap him.

    S: Yes! Knock some sense into him, although he’s so narcissistic I don’t know if he’d laugh it off or try to emotionally manipulate and convince that he is in the right. 

    I am happy, however, that Catherine chose to leave that group and go apologise to Miss Tilney and explain what happened. I hope the Tilney’s realise she is being bullied and give her grace. I also like that Mr. Allen is proper and she feels safe with him so as to ask him questions about propriety. It’s nice she has one clear advocate in Bath. I thought Mrs. Allen was one, but at the same time she just seems extremely fickle or perhaps simply unaware and self-centred.

    R: Agreed, on all counts! I was impressed with Catherine’s fortitude in sticking to her convictions and sense of right in the face of strong peer pressure. I was surprised that Mr. Thorpe was apparently telling her the truth about General Tilney’s impression of her. I’m glad Catherine is able to sort things out with the Tilneys. Mrs. Allen’s wishy-washiness is irritating, but it’s good that her husband has a better grasp of propriety and confirms Catherine’s instincts. I appreciate her inclination to want to warn Isabella off, and I’m a little worried that her not doing so is going to come back around later and cause a problem.

    S: The fact that Austen calls Catherine the ‘heroine’ and Mr. Tilney the ‘hero’ at the beginning of Chapter 14 makes me smile. Also, Mr. Tilney’s comment, ‘The person, be it gentleman or lady, who has not pleasure in a good novel, must be intolerably stupid’ is perhaps one of the most hilarious and beautiful sentences I have read in Austen’s novels, especially since she had no idea how infamous her own novels would one day become!

    R: I love that line as well! I do wonder which ‘sister author’ Austen was referencing, if any in particular. I’m glad that Catherine finally got to have her walk with the Tilneys.

    S: I wonder if Chapter 14 is the chapter that makes people stop enjoying this book. I admit to being a bit offended at Henry’s discourse on women but at Miss Eleanor’s assurances that he was simply playing and joking around I found the chapter, on the whole, pleasant. I am very happy that Catherine was able to have that time with the Tilneys and I hope it sets the precedent for a good turn of events for her.

    R: I agree that Henry’s comments are on the cringy side. Overall, the chapter was enjoyable, but that did put a slight damper on it. I hope that Miss Tilney is right that her brother is only teasing.

    S: That’s true! He could have an unkind side to him; I hope not, though, because so far I’ve been enjoying that he is the ‘hero’.  

    Chapter 15 is a literary delight and so true to real life! I did wonder if James would propose to Isabella on this outing and if that is why he was so angry with Catherine for not wanting to go with them. Catherine’s unassuming ways are still lost on Isabella who assumes her friend thinks exactly as she does and has guessed her exciting news. I am wondering, however, if Isabella really understands that the Morlands are not a rich family based on some of Isabella’s ponderings: ‘As for myself, I am sure I only wish our situations were reversed. Had I the command of millions, were I mistress of the whole world, your brother would be my only choice.’ It sounds to me as if Isabella thinks James will inherit millions.

    R: I was not particularly surprised about James and Isabella becoming engaged. I’m pleased with the development, but I concur with what you say about Isabella’s thinking. Mr. Thorpe seemed under the same impression in a previous chapter when he was wondering how it could be that James couldn’t afford to keep a good horse. I wonder how they could have come to this conclusion.

    Also, it was amusing to me that Austen referenced the ‘eight parts of speech’, something that apparently hasn’t changed in over 200 years!

    S: I love it!

    Then we come to the part where John Thorpe has, essentially, declared there to be an understanding between them. Oh, Catherine! Oh, gentle, naive Catherine! The reader understands what John Thorpe is implying but our heroine, it seems, does not. Or perhaps she does and is trying to be only friendly and not flirty. Either way, I foresee some very big miscommunication in the future! (My goodness, as I read over this discussion I’ve noticed I’ve used too many exclamation marks; yet, what else is one to do when there are so many frustrating instances?!)

    R: My worry is that John Thorpe now considers them engaged based on her vague answers! I can’t decide whether he really cares for Catherine or is just putting on a show in this scene.  

    S: I agree! I think that’s the most probable assumption. I laughed at the Mr. and Mrs. Allen’s responses regarding James and Isabella’s engagement – they are so pragmatic. I can just hear them saying, ‘Oh of course we figured something like this would happen; yes it makes sense.’ 

  • Northanger Abbey Chapters 6-10: Excitement, Bitter Disappointment, and Hopeful Expectation

    March 2, 2024
    In Want of a Good Book
    Northanger Abbey Chapters 6-10: Excitement, Bitter Disappointment, and Hopeful Expectation

    (This conversation will contain spoilers for the current chapters.)

    R: Chapter 6 consists of an interlude between Catherine and Isabella Thorpe discussing ‘horrid’ novels and men. But it begins with a comment over a hat that Isabella had seen. She mentioned a colour that I had to look up – coquelicot, which is a poppy red. This is why reading is so important. You can learn lots of new vocabulary, even as an adult! The novels they talk about seem to be the sort that were/are considered Gothic, often frowned upon during Austen’s time. 

    S: Yes! Reading does, indeed, enhance one’s vocabulary. I enjoyed this little discussion about all the books they have read or want to read. I will say, Isabella’s character began to annoy me in this chapter – she exaggerates too much and, in her mind it seems, everything is somehow overly dramatic.

    R: Surprise! Isabella and Catherine’s brothers show up. Catherine’s brother James seems amiable and possibly sweet on Isabella, but I don’t care for John Thorpe at all. He’s very brash and seems self-centred. He only wants to talk about the carriage he bought and rate women’s appearances. Instead of asking Catherine, he tells her that he’s going to take her for a drive the next day, and she rightly (though only internally) questions the propriety. As an unmarried young woman, she shouldn’t be going off with an unmarried man unchaperoned.

    *Also a note: Magdalen is pronounced ‘Maudlin’, which I learned from another novel about C.S. Lewis.

    S: I, too, am not a fan of Mr. Thorpe. He reminds me of a mix between Mr. Wickham and Mr. Collins from Pride and Prejudice and Mr. Churchill in Emma: agreeable to young ladies (according to James), a braggart, and all his talk centres around his own musings about women and his own life. It’s possible that he is agreeable and just jokes around a lot but Catherine is not amused. 

    Also, I feel for Catherine; it’s difficult to know what to say when people decide for you what they want you to do and bulldoze their choices on you then leave and expect you to follow along. 

    On a happier note, I like the relationship between James and Catherine, although I’m not quite sure James came to Bath with the express purpose of just seeing his sister! That was quite a bit of assumption, albeit understandable, on Catherine’s part.

    R: I agree about James and Catherine’s relationship. They appear to really enjoy one another’s company, not always true for siblings. Mr. Tinley returns! With him are his sister and a Mrs. Hughes. Austen doesn’t explain who this is – perhaps a chaperone or companion for Miss Tilney? Unfortunately, Catherine and Mr. Tilney don’t get around to having a dance together due to several near misses. And Isabella all but abandons Catherine in exchange for her brother. We are seeing that Isabella is not as good a friend as Catherine might like her to be.

    S: Chapter 8 was an amusing yet difficult one to read. It’s very frustrating to go somewhere with someone you expect to be with most of the time and then be left alone because they are more interested in something or someone else. Isabella really doesn’t see how Catherine feels about her brother and Catherine, because this is her first time in any of these situations, doesn’t know exactly what to do or how to express herself. Her disappointment is palpable. 

    S: Also, I have changed my mind about who Isabella reminds me of because of this chapter – Mrs. Palmer from Sense and Sensibility, particularly the way Imelda Staunton portrays her in the 1995 movie adaptation! In our previous discussion I thought Mrs. Allen reminded me of her, but more demure; not so Isabella! Her constant chatter and overdramatisation of everything is too much. I am further convinced that Isabella fancies James Morland.

    S: I’m sad Catherine didn’t get to dance with Mr. Tilney or really talk with him, and I can understand her bitter disappointment. 

    R: The day after the ball, Catherine is planning to see if she can meet and become better acquainted with Miss Tilney in the pump room, but Isabella’s brother shows up with his sister and Catherine’s to take the drive previously discussed. During the drive, it becomes even more obvious that Mr. Thorpe is entirely self-centred and not someone Catherine wants to spend time with. When they return, she finds that Mrs. Allen has seen Mr. and Miss Tilney, though she’s unable to convey any actual details about them. 

    S: Oh, Chapter 9 was so frustrating to read and yet also enjoyable! It didn’t make me angry, it’s just I had a feeling reading it that Catherine would somehow miss Mr. and Miss Tilney because the drive was longer than she thought it would be. Isn’t that how it goes much of the time? You expect something to take a specific amount of time when in reality it takes much longer and  you miss the thing you really wanted to do. I’ve used this already, but I can’t think of a better way to describe it – it’s a bitter disappointment for Catherine. 

    S: I did enjoy the beginning of the chapter as it describes Catherine’s disappointment becoming deeper and deeper and then her excited resolve upon waking. How very understandable! I am also glad Catherine has found her voice with Mr. Thorpe, although he doesn’t appear to really listen to her. He certainly does become more annoying in this chapter or, as Austen says ‘…John Thorpe himself was quite disagreeable’.

    R: Finally, Catherine catches up with Mr. Tilney at another ball! She avoids John Thorpe the whole evening so that she won’t be already engaged when Mr. Tilney (hopefully) asks her to dance. Mr. Thorpe is quite put out when he discovers her dancing with Mr. Tilney, having assumed that she was to dance with him. Mr. Tilney briefly introduces Catherine to his father; and before the evening is over, Catherine has plans to take a walk with Miss Tilney the following day. I really don’t care for Isabella much; she’s almost as self-centred as her brother sometimes.

    S: The beginning of this chapter was interesting and I dislike Isabella even more because it is as if she thinks she knows something Catherine is not saying. Aren’t humans like that, though? We place our own assumptions upon people because it’s how we act in certain situations. (She laughs, recognising the previous statement is, of course, an assumption…)

    S: When Catherine finally runs into Miss Tilney the following day I didn’t at first know what to make of it or what to make of Miss Tilney but Austen’s assurance that Miss Tilney understands how Catherine feels about Mr. Tilney is exciting. I love how Austen comments that ‘she cannot be justified in…’ her worry about what she should wear and goes on to explain that men really don’t care and women get judgmental – it was such an amusing paragraph!

    S: The conversation between Catherine and Mr. Tilney regarding dancing partners and marriage was very interesting and I feel that Austen is hinting at the possibility or probability of a misunderstanding between the two but I’m hoping not. It seems that Mr. Tilney, at least, listens to Catherine’s opinions even if he doesn’t fully understand them at first. I like the introduction of General Tilney, but I do wonder if he is a fan of his son’s attachment to Catherine. I wouldn’t put it past Austen to throw something like that into the mix!

    R: That conversation comparing marriage and dancing was odd in a little different way than Catherine and Mr. Tilney’s first conversation. It seemed less humorous and more confusing to me. I do agree that I like that Mr. Tilney really listens to her. It sets him up in direct contrast to Mr. Thorpe, who never seems to listen.

    S: It’ll be very interesting to see how or if Catherine continues to stand up for herself!

  • Northanger Abbey Chapters 1-5: A Dramatic Beginning and a Discourse on Novels

    February 10, 2024
    In Want of a Good Book
    Northanger Abbey Chapters 1-5: A Dramatic Beginning and a Discourse on Novels

    (This conversation will contain spoilers for the current chapters.)

    R: So we begin Northanger Abbey, the second to last of Jane Austen’s novels that we’ll be writing about. I believe I’ve only read this one once, and other than the protagonist’s name, I remember nothing about it.

    S: Although I had seen some movie adaptations for the first four we’ve read I tried to come at the books as one who knew nothing about the stories, which has been a lot of fun. With this one I’m completely in the dark! 

    R: Our introduction to Catherine Morland is humourous and cheeky. The young woman is one of ten children. What Austen writes about her mother gave me a bit of a giggle: ‘Her mother was a woman of useful plain sense, with a good temper, and, what is more remarkable, with a good constitution. She had three sons before Catherine was born; and instead of dying in bringing the latter into the world, as anybody might expect, she lived on–lived to have six children more–to see them growing up around her, and to enjoy excellent health herself.’ This seems to be a poke at the trope of the heroine’s mother having died in childbirth (obviously not funny in actuality), but it must have been as common as it is now in novels.

    After the introduction, Catherine is invited to join the Allens, friends and neighbors of the Morlands, for a trip to Bath.

    S: I laughed at that sentence as well. There is such wit and tongue-in-cheek in this first chapter. I appreciate how Austen introduced Catherine Morland as a heroine-in-training and says that, as of yet, she has nothing really heroic in her to even be considered as a heroine. There are so many delicious sentences in these first few pages, one of which I happen to very much enjoy is, ‘But when a young lady is to be a heroine, the perverseness of forty surrounding families cannot prevent her. Something must and will happen to throw a hero in her way’. I have a feeling I’m going to giggle quite a bit during this read.

    R: Chapter 2 moves right along with Catherine and Mr. and Mrs. Allen arriving in Bath and getting settled. One of their first activities is attending a very crowded ball where they know no one. I think this must have been a public ball. I assume that means that anyone can attend; whereas I would surmise that only invitees would attend a private ball.

    S: Even more delicious sentences are found in Chapter 2! The reader can sense Catherine’s disappointment that nothing has yet introduced ‘them to the hero’ she assumes she will undoubtedly encounter, and yet she is nonetheless enthralled by everything around her. Mrs. Allen reminds me of a mix between Mrs. Jennings with her know-how of style and dress from Sense and Sensibility and Lady Bertram with her general demeanor from Mansfield Park. I honestly feel as if I’m reading a bit about how I felt in life as a seventeen-year-old: I was the heroine and any small nod to my beauty was well received. I, like Catherine, always felt out of place and felt as though I stood out in the crowd. In all honesty none of this was probably true, but rather than contenting herself with conversing with Mrs. Allen, Catherine instead longs for both more and less – to be danced with but also to not stand out. 

    R: In Chapter 3, we find our heroine at another ball, dancing with a young man, a clergyman by the name of Mr. Tilney. I think I like him very much! He is quite funny. Saying of Catherine, of what she might write in her journal later: ‘was strangely harassed by a queer, half-witted man, who would make me dance with him, and distressed me by his nonsense.’ This may be the best introduction of what I assume is the male protagonist in all of Austen’s books so far! I do so love nonsense. He reminds me a little of Mr. Bennet in that way.

    S: This was a short but fun chapter and I was sad it was over so quickly for I, too, enjoyed Mr. Tilney and I hope he ends up being a good guy. He makes me think of Mr. Bingley from Pride and Prejudice but he also reminds me a bit of Frank Churchill from Emma so I’m not sure how to view him yet. I am further puzzled by Mrs. Allen’s character as now she reminds me of Mrs. Palmer from Sense and Sensibility with her long-windedness. Also, I’m glad Mr. Allen is looking out for Catherine; he reminds me of Mr. Palmer from Sense and Sensibility. 

    R: The next day, we find Mrs. Allen complaining that they have no acquaintance in Bath, only to encounter a former friend and schoolmate named Mrs. Thorpe. Catherine and Mrs. Thorpe’s daughters become fast friends, finding that their brother and hers are known to each other as well. Catherine and the elder Miss Thorpe become particularly friendly. 

    S: ‘Friendship is certainly the finest balm for the pangs of disappointed love.’ Possibly this is written in jest, but it is nonetheless a sweet sentiment. In a strange way, Catherine Morland reminds me of Harriet from Emma – very naive, very innocent, very hopeful. I am a bit concerned if Miss Thorpe will indeed remain a friend and am also wondering if she may become a sister-in-law. This chapter raises so many questions: Will Catherine catch the fancy of both Mr. Tilney and Mr. Thorpe? Will she be persuaded to be matched with one of them when she really loves the other? Will Miss Thorpe fall in love with Catherine’s brother, Mr. James Morland, but leave him because her mother wants better for her since she has little money left? Or is Mr. Tilney engaged to Miss Thorpe? I think it would be satisfying if Catherine, whose father is a clergyman, married a clergyman, but we shall see.

    R: Catherine looks in vain for Mr. Tilney everywhere she goes. I find myself wondering what an ‘undressed’ ball is: ‘He was nowhere to be met with; every search for him was equally unsuccessful, in morning lounges or evening assemblies; neither at the Upper nor Lower Rooms, at dressed or undressed balls, was he perceivable;’. Actually, what on earth are pump rooms, anyway? This may call for some investigation.

    S: This was a very funny chapter! I, too, was unsure about what the Pump Room was. According to the interwebs, this refers to an historic building named the Grand Pump Room which, indeed, is located in Bath. 

    S: I wonder, again, if Isabella Thorpe is in love with Mr. Tilney or with a friend of his; Austen never actually says that Catherine gave his name, although I suppose it’s implied. The relationship between Mrs. Allen and Mrs. Thorpe is rather funny for as civil as they are to each other it does sound like they’re trying to one-up the other and Mrs. Allen reminds me a little bit of Mrs. John Dashwood from Sense and Sensibility with her pride.

    R: I love how Austen addresses the reader at the end of Chapter 5 regarding the reading of novels! So far, this book seems to be far more directly humourous than the previous ones, and it’s working for me.

    S: Austen’s rant against those who shame novels has been my favourite part so far, so much so that I laughed aloud after reading it and proceeded to read it aloud to my friend who was also very amused. From reading the first five chapters I’m honestly surprised this is not one of people’s favourites of Austen’s novels. Admittedly, I had to start it over three times before I finished the first five chapters, but I’ve laughed or giggled so much in these few pages I’m glad I was tenacious. 

    Chapters 6-10 will be discussed in March!

  • On Upcoming Reads – Winter 2023-2024

    January 28, 2024
    The Sesquipedalian Speaks

    Thursday, 21 December 2023, marked the first day of Winter. December was an unusually busy month with (for me) an uncharacteristic amount of travel, so it’s only now that I’ve had a chance to sit down and think about what I’d like to read this Winter.

    Last year was such a strange year of reading for me, but as I looked back at my Upcoming Reads – Autumn 2023 list I was surprised to see that I’ve actually read quite a number of the books on this list:

    • Among the Shadows, by L. M. Montgomery (review here)
    • Famous Ghost Stories, by Amelia B. Edwards, Sir Walter Scott, Daniel Defoe, Algernon Blackwood, and Edith Wharton (review here)
    • The Legend of Sleepy Hollow and Rip Van Winkle, by Washington Irving (review here)
    • Tom’s Midnight Garden, by Philippa Pearce (review here)

    Unfortunately, I didn’t end up rereading The Life Giving Table: Nurturing Faith Through Feasting, One Meal at a Time, by Sally Clarkson.

    I will have to come back to:

    • Black Beauty, by Anna Sewell
    • Wuthering Heights, by Emily Bronte

    I’m still working on:

    • The Complete Father Brown Stories, by G. K. Chesterton

    As with The Complete Father Brown Stories, a number of the books I’ve begun during this new season are ones that will take me a longer amount of time to finish reading, so it may be a while before reviews are written for these:

    • Praying the Bible, by Donald S. Whitney
    • Seasons of Wonder: Making the Ordinary Sacred Through Projects, Prayers, Reflections, and Rituals: A 52-Week Devotional, by Bonnie Smith Whitehouse
    • Spiritual Disciplines for the Christian Life, by Donald S. Whitney
    • Taliesin, by Stephen R. Lawhead
    • The Life Giving Table Experience: A Guided Journey of Feasting through Scripture, by Sally Clarkson, Joel Clarkson, and Joy Clarkson

    Some of you may know I (Stacy) have a website called Bookshelves and Tea I started in April 2020. This site originally began as a way to encourage those with younglings in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic. It has since grown to feature author interviews and, as of January 2024, The Sesquipedalian Speaks! I’ll still be contributing to In Want of a Good Book at All the Writings but from now on I’ll be focusing most of my blogging time at Bookshelves and Tea. If you’ve enjoyed any of the posts under The Sesquipedalian Speaks you can now find them and future posts at Bookshelves and Tea.

  • Emma: Discussion Over the 1996 Movie Adaptation with Gwyneth Paltrow

    January 27, 2024
    In Want of a Good Book
    Emma: Discussion Over the 1996 Movie Adaptation with Gwyneth Paltrow

    S: Happy New Year! We are back and happy to discuss the 1996 Emma movie adaptation starring Gwyneth Paltrow. I confess I was never interested in watching this adaptation and, in all honesty, I don’t know why. It really doesn’t make any sense considering there were so many Jane Austen adaptations released during this period of time that I have seen and enjoyed: the Emma Thompson adaptation of Sense and Sensibility, the A&E adaptation of Pride and Prejudice, and Clueless (a modern interpretation of Emma) were all released in 1995, and another version of Emma starring Kate Beckinsale was released in 1996.

    R: I think this may be the only adaptation of Emma that I’ve seen. It’s not one of my favourites of the novels, so while this movie adaptation is somewhat enjoyable, I’m not particularly excited about it. 

    S: The introduction and conclusion with Emma’s paintings of everyone and all the places was a neat way to give an overview and summation. I also enjoyed that she kept a diary since quite a bit of the book takes place in her mind. Further, the marriage of the Westons at the beginning of the movie was not in the book but I think it was a great addition and introduction to some of the main characters. 

    I was quite pleased with how the actors played their roles even though a couple of them were a bit different from what I had in my mind. Mr. Knightley was less stoic than I had read him and thinking back on the book this interpretation makes sense: he cares for people. Miss Bates was more bubbly than I envisioned and also more nervous. I never read her as a very nervous character but this interpretation works.

    R: I don’t care at all for how Mr. Knightley was portrayed. I saw a little more of the book version when he and Emma had their first big disagreement about Harriet marrying Mr. Martin, but otherwise, I did feel that his personality came through well.

    S: Ah, yes; that was a good scene and has a lot of comedy in it, with Emma shooting the arrows worse and worse each time Mr. Knightley says something that she disagrees with or convicts her of her actions. I also enjoyed the outdoor tea scene with everyone even though I cringed watching it because of Emma’s rudeness. Here again, I think the Mr. Knightley and Miss Bates characters are played well. I appreciated how the Emma character is torn between wanting to cry because she knows she was wrong and yet feeling prideful and not wanting to hear Mr. Knightley’s rebuke. Mr. Knightley’s sadness over her blunder is executed well. That scene is really sort of the climax of the novel as Emma begins to change for the better after that altercation. 

    R: When Mr. Knightley confronted Emma after the tea party was probably his best moment for me. 

    S: I was disappointed that we do not see as much character development from Jane Fairfax or Frank Churchill, including the manipulative relationship he has with his aunt – there is so much of both of them in the book! It is a rather long movie and I understand that to have added a few more scenes for them would have made it overly long. I’m further reminded that I think the plot moves rather more quickly than I feel like it should for an over two-hour movie. I’m not sure how that works, but there you are.

    R: I think I actually hate the casting choice of Ewan McGregor as Frank Churchill. His hair is also terrible. I agree that the pacing seems too fast, but it’s a lot of book to cram into two hours. I believe it’s the longest of Jane Austen’s novels.

    S: Oh, that’s funny! Come to think of it, I think I had to rewind the movie to make sure it was Ewan McGregor because the hair was throwing me off. Yes, I believe you’re correct – Emma is the longest of Austen’s novels. 

    I like the added scene of the prayer in the chapel. Although not in the book, it was definitely something that fit well with Emma’s character and, I think, Austen’s background and wit. This movie does that well, showing the humour as well as the seriousness of the plot. 

    R: I agree about the humour, and I thought Gwyneth Paltrow did a great job showing Emma’s emotions, especially as she begins to realise her culpability in the harm she causes.

    S: As much as the Westons were present, I did lament the fact we are never told they are expecting, although we do see Mrs. Weston holding a baby in one of the end credit paintings. 

    R: They also almost completely cut out Emma’s sister and brother-in-law, which I thought was fine. They would have muddied an already complicated plot, which was already simplified significantly for film.

    S: I agree with that. As I say, it is rather interesting which bits they cut out and which bits they added that were not actually part of the book.

    R: I liked the final scene between Emma and Harriet. It felt heartfelt and realistic.

    S: Do you know that is one scene with which I wasn’t as happy? I’m not sure why; it just felt too – bubbly? I think that’s the word. I’m happy it is in the film because that is such an important relationship in the book and offers closure (or a new beginning!); it just wasn’t my favourite. 

    R: It’s so interesting how we each reacted to some of the characters and scenes in completely opposite ways. 

    S: Indeed!

    Over all, I am really pleased with this interpretation and I’m glad we picked it to compare and contrast with the book. 

    R: I didn’t find this to be a bad movie, but it isn’t one that I’m likely to go back to over and over as I do my favourite adaptations of Pride and Prejudice and Sense and Sensibility. 

    Next, we are starting our discussion over Jane Austen’s Northanger Abbey, so if you want, grab a copy and read along with us!

  • On December Reading Life – 2023

    December 24, 2023
    The Sesquipedalian Speaks

    As busy as this past month has been for me I’ve also been able to make time to read more, which has been so reviving and calming to my mind and spirit. Winter has slowly begun to creep into my part of the world and with the end of the year merrily on its way I’ve begun to think of all the things I’ll need to tackle next year. However, next year is not yet here and so I bring you the final On Reading Life post of 2023.

    Below are some of the books I’ve been reading this month; note that the following may contain spoilers:

    A Little House Christmas: Holiday Stories from the Little House Books, by Laura Ingalls Wilder – This beautiful anthology covers the chapters from Little House in the Big Woods (my personal favourite as of right now), Little House on the Prairie, and On the Banks of Plum Creek that focus on Christmas. At the end of this collection is a song complete with the music. This is a book I grew up with but never read and I am so happy I finally took the time to read it. I have read the Little House series and enjoyed the books, the reviews of which can be found in these posts.

    Christmas with Anne & Other Holiday Stories, by L. M. Montgomery – I had this delightful collection of stories as a child but, sadly, never read them before they had found another home. Earlier this year, however, I found a copy of them and enjoyed the pleasure of finally reading them. Only a couple of them are from the Anne of Green Gables books; most are short stories from magazines and journals. This collection is a definite reread for the Christmas season and New Year.

    Hannah Coulter, by Wendell Berry – Part of the Port William series, this beautiful book tells in first person the story of a woman from her childhood to her old age, 1930s to 2001. It offers the perspective of someone who has lived most of her life in a small farming community and watches sadly and, in a way, expectantly the changes in her family and community as the years pass. There are a few cuss words but I don’t think they detract from the story. When I finished it I wanted to start it again, wishing I could have the pleasure of reading it once more for the first time.

    The Life Giving Home Experience: A 12-Month Guided Journey, by Sally Clarkson with Joel Clarkson – I enjoyed reading through and answering the questions in this companion workbook to The Life Giving Home: Creating a Place of Belonging and Becoming by Sally Clarkson and Sarah Clarkson. In many ways it was therapeutic and something I looked forward to at the beginning of each month.

    Tom’s Midnight Garden, by Philippa Pearce – It took me three months to finish this acclaimed children’s fantasy but it was worth it. The pacing for much of the book is slow, and at the beginning the main character has an attitude, being very rude to most people, both of which made it difficult for me to keep reading at first. (There is also an uncle who is very temperamental.) However, as the story progresses so does the main character, Tom, which is very satisfying. I originally began it in October because I thought it was a ghost story but I was (happily) mistaken (although I do enjoy some ghost stories!). I think it would be a fun read aloud, it just has a pacing some people may find too slow.

  • On November Reading Life – 2023

    November 29, 2023
    The Sesquipedalian Speaks

    I usually look forward to the holiday season and this year was no exception. I had a number of things I wanted to do in November that I either hadn’t done in a long time or had never done:

    • drink an apple cider slushy from a cider mill
    • eat apple cider doughnuts
    • puree pumpkin, acorn squash, and butternut squash to use in future recipes
    • try out new recipes for holiday meals
    • sew some new pillows for the living room

    I also spent a lot of time catching up with friends and family. Because I chose to focus on making these happy memories instead of checking off books from my reading list it means that, for the first time since I started these posts, I have no new books to recommend.

    Is that surprising? It is to me, because I have so many good books waiting to be reread or partway begun that I haven’t yet shared, but perhaps that’s okay. Sometimes it’s nice to have the reminder, or maybe for some of us the permission, that it’s okay as a reader to have busy months or years where reading is just not happening no matter how much we want it to. Sometimes the mind is working through something and instead of reading being an escape reading becomes a chore. I am working on accepting this season for what it is, whatever it is.

    Although I don’t have a new recommendation, I do have a reread that is short and sweet and fun:

    • The Best Christmas Pageant Ever, by Barbara Robinson. I read it for the first time (I think) last year, although I was familiar with the story because of the movie and stage play. I highly recommend it.

    In other news, today is the inaugural C. S. Lewis Reading Day! I’ve recommended a number of his works and expect to recommend many more. His Chronicles of Narnia are my favourite rereads at this point in my life.

  • Emma Chapters 51-55: In Which Loose Ends are Tied Up

    November 4, 2023
    In Want of a Good Book
    Emma Chapters 51-55: In Which Loose Ends are Tied Up

    (This conversation will contain spoilers for the current chapters.)

    R: This was a great chapter! I loved Mr. Knightley’s comments as he read Frank Churchill’s letter. I tend to agree with him in his assessment of Frank’s character. I think Mr. Knightley moving to Hartford in order to marry Emma is a good solution.

    S: The way that Mr. Knightley reads Frank’s letter is highly amusing. It makes complete sense to me that he (Knightley) is willing to move to Hartfield while Mr. Woodhouse is still living; it keeps with his character we see in the rest of the story. 

    What a change in Chapter 52 in people’s attitudes! I feel very sad for Emma’s and Harriet’s relationship and hope it can be resolved amicably, but I am happy that Jane and Emma are becoming friends. Sadly, Mr. and Mrs. Elton really are not quite a good example of a pastoral family. I was rather surprised at the way Mr. Knightley snubbed Mr. Elton, but then again I don’t think he cares much for people who are rude. 

    R: I appreciate that Emma is attempting to make things right with Harriet while keeping her distance as well. I’m not quite sure if I’m clear on whether Harriet is already aware of the understanding between Mr. Knightley and Emma or not. My impression is that they haven’t told anyone yet and Emma is trying to avoid having to conceal it from Harriet while not encouraging Harriet’s interest in Mr. Knightley, or if she’s afraid of having to tell Harriet directly to turn her interest from the gentleman.

    Mrs. Elton is infuriating, but I’m glad that Emma is able to reconcile with Jane. I hope that they’ll be able to remain friends from now on. I feel like Mr. Knightley didn’t so much snub Mr. Elton, but forgot him because of being distracted by Emma.

    S: I do hope that the Weston’s little girl will grow up to be the best of Emma and Jane. 

    The flirting between Mr. Knightley and Emma is very funny. (It is a bit strange to think that he had started falling in love with her when she was thirteen and he twenty-nine, although I suppose he could just be teasing her about that.) I’m honestly shocked that so many people in the village were surprised by the match between Emma and Mr. Knightley – I would have thought most would have assumed it would happen. Sometimes when you’re close to something, though, it is strangely difficult to see what’s happening. Emma did protest quite a bit that she would never marry and Mr. Knightley appears to have never courted anyone, so perhaps everyone’s surprise is not as surprising.

    R: This was a fun chapter! They were so sweet and careful in how they told Mr. Woodhouse about their engagement, and I loved the support the Westons gave in cajoling Mr. Woodhouse into approval. I thought everyone’s surprise was a little surprising too, because people always seem to match up others who are in close proximity with one another.

    S: Finally – Mr. Martin tells Harriet yet again that he loves her! I knew his feelings hadn’t changed and that his family was so sad and hurt when she turned him down. I’m very pleased.

    R: I’m really happy that Emma has reconciled herself to Harriet marrying Mr. Martin! Not just reconciled, Emma truly seems happy for her friend. I’m glad that Mr. Knightley encourages her to get to know Mr. Martin.

    S: I am, too.

    The final chapter is so very funny. Mr. Woodhouse changing his mind about the wedding makes me smile. Time changes relationships and that’s okay; sometimes they need to change. 

    R: I can’t decide whether I found the ending amusing or am annoyed that Mrs. Elton got the last words in the book. Otherwise, it was a very sweet ending. I’m glad all of the relationships turned out happily!

    S: This book is so very different from the other three we’ve read! We get a much clearer picture of what is inside the head of the protagonist, which I think is the main reason it is the longest of her works. 

    R: I agree. This one had many characters and elements reminiscent of Austen’s other works, but at the same time enough differences to keep the story fresh. Emma, so far, has been the most flawed of Austen’s protagonist ladies, and Mr. Knightley the most involved protagonist gentleman. I think he’s the only one who is present and an important part of the lady’s life from the beginning of the story. It made for a unique and engaging dynamic as Emma grew and changed throughout.

    S: If you have read Emma we hope you enjoyed it as much as we did! Our last post for this book with be a comparison between it and the 1996 movie adaptation of Emma, which stars Gwyneth Paltrow.

  • On October Reading Life – 2023

    October 31, 2023
    The Sesquipedalian Speaks

    October has been a rather busy reading month for me. Unfortunately, most of the books I’ve read I haven’t enjoyed enough to recommend or I have yet to finish the ones I might end up recommending. I’m still working my way through Philippa Pearce’s Tom’s Midnight Garden and G.K. Chesterton’s The Complete Father Brown Stories. So, sadly, I only have one recommendation this month…but it’s a good one! (Note that the following may contain spoilers.)

    Among the Shadows, by L. M. Montgomery – This book was and was not what I had expected and I enjoyed every part of it. Based on the description the back of the book gives I had expected mostly paranormal stories but actually many of the stories were mysteries and some were romantic – a perfect collection for October, and one that is going on my reread list. I think these stories would be fun to read aloud.

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